23: Shipping Violently w/ Justin Moon
Published: April 13, 2026
Duration: 1:40:13
“I want to optimize for hackability and customization.”
Justin Moon & Gigi take a walk in Madeira. Recorded during SEC-07.
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In this dialogue:
Justin’s new obsession: building Shadow, a hackable mobile operating system for people who want full control over the stack Why Android is interesting again: not because it’s clean, but because it is at least open enough to fight with Android file chaos, and the immortal “file saved successfully” meme One wallet, one relay connection, one shared set of primitives at the OS level, instead of every app...