
S9E37 - Feeling Different? A Deep Dive into the Enneagram 4 Experience with Dudley Delffs
Published: March 19, 2026
Duration: 49:26
There are some conversations that don't just inform you—they find you. This was one of those for me.
In this episode, I sit down with my friend Dudley Delffs—author, therapist, and a fellow self-preservation Four—and what unfolds is less of an interview and more of an honest, unguarded conversation between two people who've spent a lifetime trying to tell the truth about their lives…and sometimes wondering what it costs to do that.
We talk about the long journey of being a Four—the early years of feeling different, the instinct to hide parts...