BONUS From 3,000 Scripts to 3 Tools - Building AI-Last Software With Peter Swimm
Published: April 18, 2026
Duration: 31:28
BONUS: From 3,000 Scripts to 3 Tools - Building AI-Last Software With Conversational AI Pioneer Peter Swimm
In this special BONUS episode, Peter Swimm—conversational AI veteran, creator of BotKit (the open-source chatbot framework that powered Slack and Teams bots), and former Principal Product Manager at Microsoft Copilot Studio—shares what 25+ years in tech taught him about working with AI. From his brutal experiment of running an entire business on voice-based AI for a week, to why he treats AI more like R2-D2 than C-3PO, Peter offers a grounded, practical perspective on where AI fits in software development teams.
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