
The Agile Organization as a Learning System With Tom Gilb and Simon Holzapfel
Published: December 12, 2025
Duration: 21:33
BONUS: The Agile Organization as a Learning System Think Like a Farmer, Not a Factory Manager
"Go slow to go fast. If you want to go somewhere, go together as a team. Take a farmer's mentality."
Simon contrasts monoculture industrial thinking with the permaculture approach of Joel Salatin. Industrial approaches optimize for short-term efficiency but create fragile systems. Farmer thinking recognizes that healthy ecosystems require patience, diversity, and nurturing conditions for growth. The nervous system that's constantly stressed never builds much over time—think of the body, trust the body, let the body be a bo...