
Détente 2.0 with Mike Froman of CFR
Published: December 15, 2025
Duration: 1:01:00
Mike Froman is president of the Council on Foreign Relations and former U.S. Trade Representative. He joins ChinaTalk for the first time to discuss:
Why his 1992 dissertation on détente is suddenly relevant again – and why “positive linkage” fails to change adversary behavior,
How mutual assured destruction has shifted from nuclear weapons to rare earths, supply chains, and technology, and why the U.S. and China are stuck in a costly, uncomfortable stalemate,
Trump’s unorthodox use of economic leverage and America’s resilience problem,
CFR’s new cross-fellow initiatives on China, eco...